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Shtf last night
#1
Wake up this am to my wife saying we don't have water. O crap well froze was my first thought. Get on my cold weather gear to go fight the battle and I open the door to garage and the over head door is open. It's 9 degrees in the garage and guess were my waterlines, softener, filters and my boiler is at. So no heat and no water.

Now I'm looking at a cracked boiler and every pump and valve is leaking as its thawing out. This is a 8 to 10k mistake. Luckily insurance will probably cover all but my deductible. I am going to be without heat for a few days or weeks even. I have a wood fireplace on main level but my house is 8700 sq ft so its not easy to heat, but can be done. Looks like I need to plan for a little worse and maybe put in a wood stove in the basement, and maybe upstairs too. I have 9 cords of wood on hand since I will go threw 21 to 23 this winter anyway. Big house is a pain in the ass.

Updates later on once it all thaws out.
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#2
Sorry to hear that. I hope your repairs go smoothly.

Time to look into some kind of remote garage door status indicator or alarm to alert you when it's left open. Good for security too.
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#3
I live in the middle of nowhere and I need to just make sure I see it shut every time, well I need to train the wife to do that. A alarm with sensors on all 9 doors and 51 windows would be expensive I bet.
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#4
There are various solutions. Some are simple remote indicators. Others let you remotely open or close it. I'm kind of a home automation junkie. I can monitor and operate my doors over the internet if need be. Here's some simple monitor solutions from Smarthome
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Thanks rocky I will look into those after everything gets situated again. Better yet I will get something once everything is fixed.
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#6
Now that sucks. I've had to deal with frozen and busted pipes on at least three different occasions that I can remember. I feel your pain. Although, the cost was never quite as high as what you are describing. Hope you're able to keep warm enough.
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#7
Bummer. I agree with folks who mention monitoring. Many security systems include dry contacts for temperature alarms that can be purchased as adjustable (usually slightly less reliable) or that trigger at a set temperature (usually 40F). Add monitoring service and you'll get a phone call before stuff freezes.

If you need a referral to a local alarm company (not ADT!), PM me. Not the cheapest, but you truly own the system and the monitoring is reasonable. No direct relationship, I just know the owners.
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#8
Sorry man, that sucks...


But holy crap is that a big house! Haha.
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#9
I hate it when tshtf...never something one should have to deal with.
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Update. I still have not heard from a adjuster yet. I am getting a non electricity needed ventless propane stove for basement. I used this same unit in indiana and it works great no fan needed and a great backup unit. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200362091_200362091

This is a incase we loose power or this happens again. It should keep everything from freezing. In the garage I am mounting up a Forced air propane shop heater I already had to help suplemental heat upstairs and main level when I need to go somewhere or in the future if new boiler stops working.. Now I just need to wait on the dang insurance to call so I can get my boiler fixed up and softner. I have all water and water heater back up and running again.

Good news is basement stayed at 57 with no heat. Garge is at 50 and main house is 60 to 75 depending on we're the location is to fireplace. Century fireplace is a big unit but puts out the heat.
http://centuryfireplaces.com/index.html

I would have never paid the 8 to 10 grand for this unit but I'm am glad the previous owner did.

We can all learn from others mistakes and successes.
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#11
Glad to hear things are stabilizing. Good luck with the insurance adjuster.

Do you have a CO detector? I don't know whether there is any CO risk with ventless propane heaters, but better safe than sorry.
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I do have one or two on each level. There is some risk but there is a risk with anything you use.
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#13
Try PEX for your water lines, they expand and don't split when frozen. sometimes the platic coupler cracks but it's an easy fix. I lived in Montana and got really tired of split pipes. Pex fixed that. My dad is still there and hasn't split a pipe in years.
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#14
Not when the coupler is under 2 to 3 inches of concrete in your in floor heat ran with pex. You have to run a boiler setup with copper for the valves and manifold plumbing. It needs the strength of copper to stay on the wall and maintain support. What I will do is add glycol to the lines to prevent a future freeze. It's like antifreeze for in floor heat.
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